Archive for the ‘Budget Automobile’ Category

Getting Into The Frugal Mindset on Cars

Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009

I have struggled to get into the frugal mindset in all aspects of my life. Occasionally, it’s just easier to stop at the gas station closer to my house rather than drive another half mile to the other one with cheaper gas. However, the place where I see it is the toughest to get into the frugal mindset is your automobile. Americans are stuck in the car payment rut. we also think generally that a car with 100,000 miles on it needs to be traded in. Cars are where there is a huge opportunity to save money in your budget. I have some tips:

  • Establish a relationship with an oil change establishment that has a rewards program or mailed coupon program for repeat customers. (Or even better, change your oil yourself if you are so inclined)
  • Maintain your car and factor in the expense to keep it running for a long time. At 90,000 miles, make the decision to invest some money in it to keep it running all the way to 180,000. Resist the urge to go along with the American addiction for new cars.
  • Make opportunistic purchases of vehicles. A friend of ours waited until gas was the highest to go buy the used vehicle that fit his family’s needs. They needed a big SUV for their large family. When gasoline was at $3.30 a gallon, the salesmen would do literally anything to get a used Toyota Sequoia off their lot. Our friend not only got the vehicle for less than market value, but also negotiated some maintenance for free.
  • Get rid of your loan. Make extra payments. There are two types of people in the world: (1) Those who pay interest and (2) Those who collect interest. Be the person who collects interest.

See this link for additional ideas on 13 Frugal Ways To Save on Car Ownership.

The Case For Clunkers

Tuesday, August 25th, 2009

I have written a few posts about driving cars well past 100,000 miles and spending the money to maintain them rather than spending larger amounts on payments for new cars. A car without payments oozes value. My husband caught this advertisement on TV that drives the point home:

Biting the Bullet: Maintaining an Older Car

Friday, July 3rd, 2009

We have been thinking a lot lately about our automobile situation. While there are big cost savings in driving older cars, there are costs. Our 2000 Toyota Sienna has 145,000 miles on it and there are a number of things that simply must be done to keep this car on the road. Toyotas have exemplary reputations for staying on the road, but with proper maintenance. When considering our van, we realized that we will need a number of things done at this point: timing belt, water pump, external drive belts, transmission fluid, and tire rotation. The driver side door also needs a part replaced. It looks like our car will cost us around $1,200 in total maintenance costs in 2009 (oil changes included). We thought about buying a new car. However, what it came down to was that new cars must be maintained as well, but they have payments or significant upfront costs (if buying in cash). Sure, we could drive around a 2010 Toyota Sienna van, but it would likely cost us $400 a month ($3200/year) in loan payments and would still have maintenance costs. This is not including the increased insurance costs.

What it really comes down to is this – can you stand driving an older car? Do you believe in it? Can you defend your “clunker” at your next family get-together or social gathering and feel good about it? After careful consideration, we decided that we believe in driving older cars. It just makes sense to use something that still works just fine and costs much less than a new car. A new car is simply a luxury. We have three children and it just doesn’t work out for us.

New Car vs. Old Car

Monday, June 22nd, 2009

I’ve talked before about my debate on whether or not we should purchase a new car or continue to put money into our two older vehicles. While they both generally run well, even with preventative maintenance we know that inevitably they will both need to be replaced in the future. I came across an article in Kiplinger’s Personal Finance magazine that addressed the same problems we are thinking about with our older cars. While I think that their estimated dollar amounts for upkeep of the average car are a bit high, I do like the comparison of purchasing the new car vs. maintaining the older car.

Many people consider the purchase of a new car as an asset, defined as something that has an exchange value. A new car depreciates the minute it is purchased and taken off the lot. While it does have an exchange value I wouldn’t consider it a viable asset. My husband is fond of saying that besides your underwear, your car is one of the only things you’ll own that can be guaranteed to be worth $0 at some point in the future if you keep it long enough. Of course he is joking since there would be some salvage value, but the average “daily driver” car definitely has no appreciating value.

Our family has two cars that are essentially free other than maintenance expenses. Recently, we looked into buying a newer car. This would cost around $10,000-$12,000 for a Honda Accord that is a few years old. Supposing we borrowed for this car, it would cost us around $250.00 per month in a payment and an increase of around $40 per month in insurance to add Comprehensive and Collision coverage (we do not currently carry these coverages). In contrast, we are spending approximately $500-$750 on either of our cars in an average year changing oil, transmission fluid, or making minor repairs such as thermostats. It’s just a better deal. We’ve also investigated all the typical objections such as “a new car is more reliable.” Our old cars are very reliable if you maintain them and are willing to spend a few bucks here and there and have a budget for an occasional major repair. A new car is just more fun and I admit it. However, it is an American tradition that we’ve decided to look past.

Here are two good articles you might want to read about the topic:

Keeping Your Clunker – MSN

Keep Your Clunker – Kiplingers Personal Finance

New Car or Old Car?

Monday, June 1st, 2009

Our family is at the point where we have two vehicles that are “getting up there”: a 2001 Isuzu Rodeo (102,000 miles) and a 2000 Toyota Sienna (142,000 miles). We are having to make the decision about what to do about them. They are both reliable cars. My husband has the oil changed, transmission fluid changed, and takes them for checkups. The Isuzu has needed more maintenance than the Toyota, but nevertheless has been a reliable vehicle. Both vehicles have been declared “a total loss” as a result of insurance claims and fixed up. This diminishes the value we could get if we traded them in or sold them. We do not owe on either vehicle and that has been influential in our decision to continue driving them.

To buy a new car would either result in a payment or a sizeable chunk of our savings going away. The type of car we could afford would cost $300-$400 per month in a payment plus the increased cost of insurance (we do not currently carry Comprehensive or Collision on our cars). In contrast, we could spend $500 or even $1,000 per year to maintain our old cars. I drive twice a week on the highway to church and my husband drives 7 days a week to his job or to some type of musical endeavor. It simply doesn’t make sense now for us to buy a new model SUV or minivan simply to run it up and down the highway. Yes, it would be nice to hop into a nice new Minivan with leather seats and drive to church on Sundays, but is it really worth it? The worst part of the thought of buying a new car is the depreciation of it while we would be paying down the loan. My husband likes to say that our cars are one of the only things we spend a lot of money on that will eventually be worth nothing or next to nothing.

Here are some tips to keep an old car in shape:

  • Spend money on preventative maintenance – oil changes,  transmission fluid changes, fuel and air filters, tire rotation and alignment.
  • Learn about when your major maintenance is due – this means timing belt, water pump, serpentine belts, spark plugs and wires, and of course your transmission fluid
  • Get into the mindset of keeping your car in shape, particularly after the car loan is paid and retired. Spending $500-$1,000 a year in maintenance on a car is much better than spending $3,000-$4,000 a year in payments.